◆ [Date updated: 2022/06/01(Wed) 20:53:08]
■Was kuz an overall net negative or positive
│for heyuri?
│
│https://cgi.heyuri.net/vote/vote.php?p=186
│
├■User: darksjk
││Like someone said before, without kuz there would be no heyuri, no rule 8,
││no golden age, no partybus, and no ayashii world.
││
││He made mistakes but its downright idiotic to say he was a net negative
││
│└■Well now hold on just a minute:
│ │- kuz didn't create Heyuri, and it was partly his fault (along with
│ │ many of the other staff members at that time) that it "died" in the
│ │ first place
│ │- Rule 8 already existed as an unnumbered rule beneath the post form
│ │ before kuz became co-admin
│ │- nobody was ever able to prove where the partybus came from (according
│ │ to one Anonymous back in 2020 during one particular partybus episode,
│ │ he claimed it was just him and some old friends of his that he
│ │ invited along - neither lolico nor kuz had any idea where the sudden
│ │ boom in post activity was coming from, and so I've always doubted the
│ │ later claim that kuz had anything to do with it)
│ │- Strange World was originally a kolyma board until kuz was persuaded
│ │ by Heyuri users to make it into a Heyuri board - before that point it
│ │ was filled with Rule 8 material and other crap like this:
│ │ https://ayashii.net/bbs.php?m=f&s=160&r=&
│ │
│ │I would still say kuz was net positive because I don't think a lot of
│ │the good things that Heyuri has produced would have occurred had kuz
│ │not been involved... but because he's also been involved with a lot of
│ │the things that made Heyuri objectively worse and has hindered our
│ │ability to grow almost as much as he has helped, it's only a small net
│ │positive (;^Д^)
│ │
│ └■User: Kuznetsov
│ │I put that unnumbered rule there, it literally said "-kuz" at the end! And
│ │I only did it because the font that was used reminded me of old aliased text
│ │that was once common, heyuris whole modern culture was birthed from me
│ │liking a font!
│ │
│ │It was not my fault that Heyuri died and neither akima nor lolico say this,
│ │as we have both acknowledged it is entirely the fault of one man driving
│ │stakes between us. I was there inside the private rooms, I know what went
│ │on and you have only bits and pieces you've scraped through leaks that I
│ │made! Akima is exclusively to blame for the downfall, which isnt to say that
│ │me and lolico hadnt had personality clashes, but he worsened them to the
│ │point that they became.
│ │
│ │Strange world was never a kolyma board because there is no such thing, it
│ │was just a board that I made after my then-friend Robert showed me the
│ │script and said it wasnt being hosted anywhere else. So I put it up as its own
│ │standalone site until Heyuri users asked me to incorporate it into their site,
│ │a dangerous move considering Heyuri's reputation. But I did anyways.
│ │
│ │I know where the partybus came from because I know a majority of the trip
│ │users were from 9channel! I put up a public announcement on the IRC and
│ │dicksword rooms and many notable 9channel users, including the once-mod
│ │"Jared" (who went by cdc on the boards) came to the site.
│ │
│ │The partybus was not and to my knowledge still is not an official, organized
│ │group. The reason those tripfags came in waves was from me announcing
│ │to different 9ch groups Heyuri's existance. Of course there were many
│ │non-9ch tripfags and partybus passengers, but the majority of what we
│ │currently know as "the partybus" was from 9ch, and I can verify that
│ │for an absolute fact
│ │
│ │This is what I meant by revisionism, its this systematic editing of my name
│ │out of contributions to this site.
│ │
│ │Oh, and didnt you come to this site through advertisements that were spammed
│ │on zchan as a retaliation for them spamming us? Well guess who put those there?
│ │You'll question your entire existance if you can guess ヽ(`Д´)ノ
│ │
│ └■User: Kuznetsov
│ │Also, the people you "lost" from my actions elsewhere are better off not
│ │being here, unless you think the shitflinging this board has been for the last
│ │10 minutes was how you want the entire site to look, because thats a taste
│ │of the users that dont like me, a bunch of 4chan idiots who cant be assed
│ │to adapt to the site or its culture and constantly write things they know
│ │nothing about.
│ │
│ │You yourself wrote previously about how they make huge wiki articles
│ │and long blogposts about things in japan they are clueless of, yet fail to
│ │see how that can also apply to them when they write about me. You
│ │take a look at that thread and look at what they criticize me over.
│ │
│ │Firstly they think I spammed Heyuri and leaked users IP's, which is obviously
│ │untrue and a wrong retelling of history, since as we both know akima is the
│ │one who later admitted to all that AND for trying to frame me, then he
│ │did it to my sites (strawberry heaven) too!
│ │
│ │Secondly they go on about gurochan, a site which hasnt had a single ounce
│ │of drama in over a year, and the former drama starter who is supposedly
│ │a victim of mine has been widely denounced by the users.
│ │
│ │You take a look at /dis/ and the /wiki/, on AE and on r/guro and you will
│ │see, NOT ONE single gurochan user likes straitjakit. In fact, they commonly
│ │write paragraphs upon paragraphs of why they hate him, and are extremely
│ │thankful to kaguya and I for restoring the site and its archives, and making
│ │it the largest iteration it has ever been. Again, a case of uninformed outsiders
│ │trying to write their perspective about events they have no idea of. And if
│ │there was anything you would want to challenge my stances on, straitjakit
│ │is one of the worst, as the situation with him is so 1 sided and dumb that his
│ │own former friends and moderators left (and joined kaguya!)
│ │
│ │Whats the rest? Shitty unsourced 30 paragraph long articles about me? Is
│ │it because I posted a few soyjaks in the past? (Which I did long before Heyuri
│ │existed). Is it because you had to see the letter K a few times before I quickly
│ │removed them from Heyuri for "public complaints" (which was just 1 or 2 people,
│ │no one actually gave a fuck)
│ │
│ │Is it because I fought back after some crazy pedo started accusing me of kidnapping
│ │people and installing spyware on their devices?
│ │
│ │For some reason, you, who has known all of my work on Heyuri, chooses to fixate
│ │on exxagerated or false stories and absolutely minimize any good things I did to the
│ │site, you have a deadly case of contrarianism, and its making me ill! ヽ(`Д´)ノ
│ │
│ └■1. I'll give you the Rule 8 thing, as your name is in fact on the only
│ surviving archive of it I have to hand, but it only says that you'll
│ try to be lenient with it rather than it being attributed to you. I
│ don't believe you were the one who gave birth to Heyuri's current
│ culture though, because you were still checking digits and >green-
│ texting before I commented on those things!
│
│ 2. Akima's influence cannot be denied, and I'm also of the belief that
│ the lolico+kuz era wouldn't have ended the way that it did if Akima
│ had not been present. However, both you and lolico still played a
│ significant part in Heyuri's 2020 death and subsequent massive drop
│ in userbase and activity - that much is undeniable
│
│ It's all in the past now, and tensions were obviously high, but both
│ you and lolico acted like selfish children and shat all over the
│ golden goose that was Heyuri with your stupid dicksword spats that
│ spilled out onto multiple different imageboards, while everyone else
│ (other than Akima and faganon) just wanted to have fun on teh
│ interwebs, but were forced to watch in horror as Heyuri's own staff
│ tore the site apart. In that moment, Pandora's box was opened -
│ Heyuri forever lost its innocence, and I'm still not over it (;´Д`)
│
│ 3. Strange World (and Blue Strange World!) were both listed on
│ bbs.kolyma.org prior to the "de-kolyma-ization", and you announced
│ its transition to Heyuri as part of the "de-kolyma-ization". And the
│ only person who was ever vocally against the move was faganon, so
│ there was nothing risky about it!
│
│ 4. The partybus wasn't the 9ch tripfags - they were regularly posting
│ on Heyuri already before the first partybus arrived. The partybus
│ was the sudden wave of rapidly created threads and replies made by
│ anonymous users that seemingly came out of nowhere, and left just as
│ sudenly as they arrived - much like we saw here earlier today. I
│ don't remember exactly when it was, but I remember it was after the
│ LOL Heyuri!!1 flash had been posted to 4chan's /f/ and we started to
│ get a few posters from there - that must have been around a month
│ after you invited 9ch users to Heyuri
│
│ 5. I REQUESTED AND SPENT AGES TRAWLING THROUGH ARCHIVES TO HELP WITH
│ LITERALLY EDITING YOUR NAME BACK INTO THE SITE ヽ(`Д´)ノ
│
│ 6. The initial zchan ad was just a single post from them on Heyuri:
│ https://archive.ph/7nDsN (2020/05/11) back when cavalier was still
│ co-admin, and they received a single retaliatory Heyuri ad on zchan
│ from lolico (not archived as far as I'm aware, but he mentioned that
│ he would keep the zchan ad up as long as they kept the Heyuri one up)
│
│ Then after you became co-admin there was another ad from them:
│ https://archive.ph/OQthb (2020/05/29) and I believe that's when you
│ waged a mini-war against them. Existence status: unquestioned!!!
│
│ 7. Actually I thought the sudden boost in activity here was fun, and it
│ was fairly friendly and harmless all things considered ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
│
│ 8. I don't care about the intricacies of your wars with other websites/
│ individuals or their wars with you - I just haet that we're always
│ freaking associated with it, and we can't advertise Heyuri or the
│ kewl stuff Heyuri does to anyone because it's always the same "kuz
│ kuz kuz" crap. Plus you always show up to the threads to defend your-
│ self in the most retarded and obvious fashion possible, making the
│ situation 200x worse (;´Д`)
│
│ 9. I do know all your work on Heyuri - I praise you for the things you
│ deserve praise for (like continuing to host Heyuri at what I assume
│ is a loss, being generally very lenient and tolerant in terms of
│ what we are allowed to post despite everything, and just all the
│ countless things you did for Heyuri during teh golden age and in
│ bringing the site back to life) and I frown upon the things you
│ deserve frowns for (which I think I've elaborated on enough already!)
│
│ I refuse to blindly believe any random bullshit rumor about you, but
│ at the same time I refuse to blindly mongle your cock - I will look
│ at things as objectively and truthfully as I'm able to with the
│ information I have, because I like to be comftorably correct (;^Д^)
│
└■He was a competent admin with a few mistakes
Anyone who says otherwise has been on heyuri
for less than a year and its obvious
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