◆ [Date updated: 2022/10/02(Sun) 21:08:22]
　■time to dump more money into music equipment
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　└■Music making or music listenan?
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　　└■music making (´人｀)
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　　　└■Nice, what are u buying?
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　　　　└■Roland tr 909
　　　　　│Drum Rack where it just like the keypads
　　　　　│a mixer and audio interface of sorts
　　　　　│then later on better headphones i have sony mdr v6 still. and i want to get some studio monitors. i also want to get a electric guitar and stuff.
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　　　　　└■Awesome, nice to see someone else here with their own home studio setup 
　　　　　　│- making music is fun! ヽ(´∇`)ノ
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　　　　　　│...wait, a real 909!? Σ(;ﾟ∇ﾟ)
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　　　　　　│That's my favorite drum machine of all time! I've wanted one since liek 
　　　　　　│2005, but they've always been too expensive (if only they still cost 
　　　　　　│～$1K second hand like back then - I'd have one by now!!!) and Roland's 
　　　　　　│digital clones just don't do it for me (;´Д`)
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　　　　　　│I'm thinking of buying the Behringer RD-9 next year though (already got 
　　　　　　│a TD-3 + Neutron, and they're both surprisingly good) - just wish 
　　　　　　│they'd have announced the original RD-8 before I spent a crap ton of 
　　　　　　│time, money, and effort soldering together  my own freaking 808 clone... 
　　　　　　│(;´Д`)
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　　　　　　└■yeah the real tr 909 are only like 300 dollars or so and their still making it
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　　　　　　　│i want to make eurobeat and better samples i just need other instruments and such for it
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　　　　　　　└■...the real TR-909s from the 80s are currently around $5K-$6K, and they 
　　　　　　　　│stopped making them after 1 year (;´Д`)
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　　　　　　　　│The ones made by Roland today (the TR-09) are digital simulations 
　　　　　　　　│(basically VSTs running on a little computer), and the TR-8 and TR-909 
　　　　　　　　│plugin in the Roland Cloud VST collection (easily piratable!) uses the 
　　　　　　　　│exact same engine as those
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　　　　　　　　│It's not a very good simulation IMHO, and for a digital simulation I 
　　　　　　　　│much prefer d16's Drumazon VST (the snare and clap are a little too 
　　　　　　　　│bright on Drumazon, but a little EQ solves that)
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　　　　　　　　└■ah i thought they where the real deal. do you know of a good alternative? cause i want to make eurobeat and like breakcore and other experimental genres.
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　　　　　　　　　└■Well if it's a 909 you're after, the Behringer RD-9 is a true replica 
　　　　　　　　　　　of all the sound generation circuits of the original 909, with a very 
　　　　　　　　　　　similar sequencer - there's some minor weirdness in that in "authentic 
　　　　　　　　　　　mode" the hi-hats are slightly higher pitched than the real 909, but 
　　　　　　　　　　　you can adjust the tuning outside of "authentic mode", so whatever
　　　　　　　　　　　(plus it's literally liek 19x more affordable) ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
　　　　　　　　　　　
　　　　　　　　　　　Since the mid-90s and beyond however, most times when you hear the 
　　　　　　　　　　　sound of a 909 you're actually hearing samples of a 909 - often several 
　　　　　　　　　　　generations down the line as everyone was sampling off of existing 
　　　　　　　　　　　records (including the people making sample CDs), and processed to hell 
　　　　　　　　　　　and back (;^Д^)
　　　　　　　　　　　
　　　　　　　　　　　With that in mind, and assuming you want to remain "out of the box" and 
　　　　　　　　　　　keep authentically 90s, you'll definitely want some form of hardware 
　　　　　　　　　　　sampler (especially for mangling up breakbeats like a l33t junglist) - 
　　　　　　　　　　　AKAI S1000, S3000, etc. were ubiquitous, but there were plenty of 
　　　　　　　　　　　others. Nobody makes rackmount samplers anymore, but there are many MPC-
　　　　　　　　　　　alikes that do pretty much the same thing (you can probably just hook a 
　　　　　　　　　　　MIDI keyboard up to one and have a very similar experience to a rack-
　　　　　　　　　　　mount sampler)