◆ [Date updated: 2022/08/17(Wed) 10:54:54]
　■User: Kovalenko
　│Hello, dear Russian cucks,
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　│I'd like to rewrite your sissy textboard engine in another language, which is as fast and simple as PHP, but not PHP. 
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　│What would you advise? Technobabble langs are welcome here.
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　└■User: dev man
　　│there are over 20 textboard scripts. they are easy to write whether in bash or C or go or JS etc etc etc. the real question is, what novel feature do you plan to bring to the table in your board?
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　　│http://overscript.net/
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　　└■User: Kovalenko
　　　│I checked all textboard engines from overscript list yesterday and they are either too old/oldish or just lack features which are brought by JavaScript and modern web dev. (E.g. SchemeBBS doesn't have cookies, which makes you think).
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　　　│I've already polished and localized Kareha, but when it was finished, I stopped for a while to think: I probably don't want such an old script for my BBS.
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　　　├■why is kokonotsuba not on that site?
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　　　│└■User: Kovalenko
　　　│　│Your kakanokaka has no comments in English. Maybe, fix that before applying.
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　　　│　└■Maybe go shove it and your unwarranted self importance up your ass and
　　　│　　│fuck yourself with it you faggot
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　　　│　　└■hes the kind of dude who wants to "re write" software in other languages,
　　　│　　　│for no real reason, bringing nothing new to the world.
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　　　│　　　│Evil can't create only mimic
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　　　│　　　└■User: Kovalenko
　　　│　　　　　For fun, nigger, for fun.
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　　　│　　　　　Egotist objectives are the only objectives that matter.
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　　　│　　　　　Yesterday I played with Guile webserver module and was 
　　　│　　　　　able to create POST request, but I'm stuck since Guile 
　　　│　　　　　webserver can't run some useful scripts (like writing 
　　　│　　　　　POST content to file/database), only provide response.
　　　│　　　　　Actually it can run a simple script and webserver will 
　　　│　　　　　output an error, but I can't combine response (like 
　　　│　　　　　redirect) and script (like writing to file/database).
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　　　│　　　　　I will probably look for other solutions; maybe, Chez 
　　　│　　　　　Scheme has more mature webserver module.
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　　　├■User: dev man
　　　│　btw I apologize for not formatting that post properly, and kindly
　　　│　ask that you manually wrap your future replies :) 65-80 chars per line
　　　│　is a nice, sane standard.
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　　　└■User: dev man
　　　　│Are the lack of Javascript and cookies a bug, or a feature ?
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　　　　│I would like to ask again what new features you want to bring to the 
　　　　│table, so to speak. Cookies to remember your name and email/link make
　　　　│sense. What about things like giving the thread OP an option to enable
　　　　│IDs in the thread? 
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　　　　│As the author of the textboard article on Wikipedia and several 
　　　　│textboard scripts, my opinion is that tags have a lot to offer these
　　　　│kinds of boards. Per-thread ATOM feeds, as well. I've also wondered
　　　　│about how tripcodes (pseudo registration) could be expanded in the 
　　　　│modern age: maybe Oauth or PGP-based identities? 
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　　　　│The nice thing about a tripcode is that it can be used on other sites
　　　　│in this family of forums. The downsides is that they are easily 
　　　　│spoofed and not especially user friendly. Being able to post as an 
　　　　│off-site identity, eg your Twitter/Mastodon/email (opt in) has its
　　　　│advantages.... while it was generally a failure, I still think 1chan
　　　　│was notable in its approach to handling identities (every user has an 
　　　　│account, anonymous by default, checkbox to show "user" a la "CAPCODES")
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　　　　├■User: Kovalenko
　　　　││I am not a fan of JS bloat, but I definitely appreciate when I can 
　　　　││click once/hover instead of typing everything by hand / open a new webpage.
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　　　　││I don't think that matters. Classic Kareha with sane JS UI 4chan features like post preview
　　　　││by hovering the >>666 kind of link would work, as for me. There are literally no textboards 
　　　　││like that as far as I concerned.
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　　　　││But of course its backend should be more maintainable that Perl5 script from early 2000's.
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　　　　││Booru garbage? I don't like it, I never use those tags. And I think no one does,
　　　　││at least on non-niche booru imageboards (like Neboard, probably the only one 
　　　　││I visit from time to time).
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　　　　││Also, you must be ashamed of yourself to write Wikipedia articles for free. ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
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　　　　││How about forcing anonymity? Tripfags and other pseudonymous folx could go to twitter.
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　　　　││Ok, if you are asking about real novelties, I think I could create an Emacs client. 
　　　　││But it's also not a brand new feature, some guy already made it for SchemeBBS.
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　　　　││To be honest, I would better think of finding some good old format and 
　　　　││refresh it with modern web dev tech. Maybe, not even Kareha/2ch, but lost and forgotten.
　　　　││I couldn't find anything more interesting yet, though.
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　　　　││Ok, nigger, but why wouldn't you do it on server-side? Simply insert \n every 60-80 chars 
　　　　││after some whitespace, when your PHP script compiles an HTML page.
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　　　　│└■If you want to see what a 2ch-type BBS with tons of kewl features looks 
　　　　│　│like - one that doesn't require a seperate browser/app to view/use the 
　　　　│　│extra features liek 2ch/5ch does - see open2ch: https://open2ch.net
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　　　　│　│(you can use this page to see the most active boards: 
　　　　│　│https://open2ch.net/dev/toukei/ )
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　　　　│　│They've got quotelink previews on hover and inline reply previews, but 
　　　　│　│those are probably the least interesting features of all. They've got 
　　　　│　│oekaki, images via embeds, a multiroom chatbox, polls, VoIP chat/stream-
　　　　│　│ing, a way of registering users to prevent copycats including the abili-
　　　　│　│ty to have an avatar, realtime thread rankings, advanced thread modera-
　　　　│　│tion tools for thread makers that allow them to assign other posters as 
　　　　│　│mods or ban users from the thread, a map function, board creation, and 
　　　　│　│moar
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　　　　│　│It really makes the Western-invented term "textboard" sound kinda 
　　　　│　│stupid, doesn't it? ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
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　　　　│　└■User: Kovalenko
　　　　│　　│Thanks for the links. This website restricts access for UA IPs for some 
　　　　│　　│reason, I have to use VPN, lol.
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　　　　│　　│From the first look, yeah, that's definitely not what Western people
　　　　│　　│define with the term "textboard". And not what I'd like to develop and 
　　　　│　　│deploy.
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　　　　│　　│My goals are:
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　　　　│　　│1. Single-board text BBS with threads (Kareha-style).
　　　　│　　│2. Technobabble language for backend (e.g. Scheme Guile, but I also ask 
　　　　│　　│   for your hipster advise).
　　　　│　　│3. Simple, but not simplistic design. Modern web dev techniques considered.
　　　　│　　│4. Comfy UI features from imageboards.
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　　　　│　　│That's it. I don't think it would grow large, especially if I make it 
　　　　│　　│localized in Ukrainian. (;´Д`)
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　　　　│　　└■In that case, couldn't you just take a modern imageboard script like 
　　　　│　　　│jschan, strip out or disable all the features you don't want, and then 
　　　　│　　　│customize it as you desire?
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　　　　│　　　└■User: Kovalenko
　　　　│　　　　│Imageboard has a different design. They are usually multi-board and numerate
　　　　│　　　　│each post per board. It looks like a basic feature, I need to rewrite the core
　　　　│　　　　│to change than. Then why not just it from ground-up in a wierd language? I think
　　　　│　　　　│I'd have some fun.
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　　　　│　　　　│So let's get back to my original question: I was just asking about weird / 
　　　　│　　　　│unpopular languages, which I could with no problem apply to web backend.
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　　　　│　　　　│Do you know any? I've already tried Ruby, but Ruby is too slow.
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　　　　│　　　　└■The design really isn't that different between most 2ch-type BBS 
　　　　│　　　　　　scripts and Futaba-style imageboard scripts, especially due to the 
　　　　│　　　　　　latter having adopted many features of the former (sage, tripcodes, cap-
　　　　│　　　　　　codes, etc) - it's just a matter of per-thread logs VS per-board logs/
　　　　│　　　　　　a database for the most part, and the rest is all just aesthetics and 
　　　　│　　　　　　configs (which are easily modifiable)
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　　　　│　　　　　　Hell, kokonotsuba is a Futaba-type imageboard script that can emulate 
　　　　│　　　　　　the appearance of a 2ch-type board, and kareha is a 2ch-type script 
　　　　│　　　　　　that can emulate the appearance of an imageboard - not to mention that 
　　　　│　　　　　　tons of Japanese BBS scripts include an imageboard mode (such as the 
　　　　│　　　　　　script we're posting on rite now! ヽ(´ー｀)ノ)
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　　　　│　　　　　　Per-board post numbers don't seem like a big issue to me unless ur goal 
　　　　│　　　　　　is to perfectly replicate 2ch - which honestly it doesn't sound to me 
　　　　│　　　　　　like it is. The only reason Amezou (and by extension, 2ch) was ever 
　　　　│　　　　　　like that in the first place was cuz they nigger rigged a system where 
　　　　│　　　　　　each thread was designated a seperate log file that would be viewed 
　　　　│　　　　　　with a modified version of MiniBBS in a very crude attempt to seperate 
　　　　│　　　　　　threads from the board index (thus making threads with many replies 
　　　　│　　　　　　more viable)
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　　　　│　　　　　　And while jschan does have multiboard features and an 8chan-like board 
　　　　│　　　　　　creation and management system built-in (which can be disabled), being 
　　　　│　　　　　　multiboard is nearly always entirely optional when it comes to these 
　　　　│　　　　　　kinds of scripts - in fact, the majority of them are only designed to 
　　　　│　　　　　　be a single board, and if you want multiple boards then you have to 
　　　　│　　　　　　manually set up multiple instances of the script and make your own home-
　　　　│　　　　　　page/menu to link them all together (;^Д^)
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　　　　└■You will be fucking killed robert