3841.    User: Anonymous   Post date: 2022/05/19(Thu) 23:39:35          
breaking rule 8 by linking https://kissu.moe/

3844. >Anonymous-san   User: Anonymous   Post date: 2022/05/20(Fri) 01:23:35          
> breaking rule 8 by linking https://kissu.moe/

They literally despise Heyuri, why are you giving them attention? Σ(゚д゚|||)

Reference: 2022/05/19(Thu) 18:39:35

3846. >Anonymous-san   User: Anonymous   Post date: 2022/05/20(Fri) 08:54:23          
> > breaking rule 8 by linking https://kissu.moe/
> They literally despise Heyuri, why are you giving them attention? Σ(゚д゚|||)

They are literally indifferent to Heyuri - they just have a mild dis-
taste for kuz (whose name they eventually wordfiltered to "that guy") 
because he kept pestering them with self-promotion and one-sided b0rd 
w0rz for a while, as well as the general Serious Business corporate 
presentation of present-day kolyma (which most imageboard users - 
including myself - have a distaste for. Bring back the charming hobby-
ist/amateur Web 1.0-looking kolyma! ヽ(´ー`)ノ)

Reference: 2022/05/19(Thu) 20:23:35

3853. >Anonymous-san   User: Kuznetsov   Post date: 2022/05/20(Fri) 20:30:32             
> > They literally despise Heyuri, why are you giving them attention? Σ(゚д゚|||)
> They are literally indifferent to Heyuri - they just have a mild dis-
> taste for kuz (whose name they eventually wordfiltered to "that guy") 
> because he kept pestering them with self-promotion and one-sided b0rd 
> w0rz for a while, as well as the general Serious Business corporate 
> presentation of present-day kolyma (which most imageboard users - 
> including myself - have a distaste for. Bring back the charming hobby-
> ist/amateur Web 1.0-looking kolyma! ヽ(´ー`)ノ)

I wouldnt call ddosing heyuris servers (remember all that downtime in november
through january?) and trying to make fake emails incriminating me as a cp producer
"mild distaste" or a "1 sided war". But then again, you have a habit of speaking 
authoritively on shit you have no idea about  ヽ(´∇`)ノ

Reference: 2022/05/20(Fri) 03:54:23

3854. >Kuznetsov-san   User: Anonymous   Post date: 2022/05/20(Fri) 21:27:36          
> > They are literally indifferent to Heyuri - they just have a mild dis-
> > taste for kuz (whose name they eventually wordfiltered to "that guy") 
> > because he kept pestering them with self-promotion and one-sided b0rd 
> > w0rz for a while, as well as the general Serious Business corporate 
> > presentation of present-day kolyma (which most imageboard users - 
> > including myself - have a distaste for. Bring back the charming hobby-
> > ist/amateur Web 1.0-looking kolyma! ヽ(´ー`)ノ)
> I wouldnt call ddosing heyuris servers (remember all that downtime in november
> through january?) and trying to make fake emails incriminating me as a cp producer
> "mild distaste" or a "1 sided war". But then again, you have a habit of speaking 
> authoritively on shit you have no idea about  ヽ(´∇`)ノ

1. I don't believe any of that had anything to do with kissu (unless 
   you can definitively prove otherwise, in which case I'll be happy to 
   be proven wrong and I'll never stick up for kissu again)

2. The downtime and performance issues at that time were previously 
   reported by you as being an issue with your ISP regarding the size 
   of our traffic, gateway routers crashing due to your network 
   receiving a lot of traffic, and "getting ddos'd occasionally":
   https://www.heyuri.net/#news43
   https://ayashii.net/bbs.php?m=t&s=2384&c=48&ff=202201.dat

3. You announced that we were under DDoS attack on 2021/11/19 
   ( https://ayashii.net/bbs.php?m=t&s=2091&ff=202111.dat ), but your 
   hitpiece on kissu hosted on nss.kolyma.org was already online in 
   October - it contained serious CP-related accusations that you 
   provided no evidence for, and it even detailed insults that you had 
   directed towards them prior to all of this:
   https://web.archive.org/web/20211028084952/https://nss.kolyma.org/dangerous-websites/kissu/

Regardless, even if it was true that kissu was somehow behind the DDoS 
against your network, none of that had nothing to do with Heyuri - it 
was entirely to do with you, kolyma, and your "interactions" with other 
websites - and Heyuri had to suffer for it (;´Д`)

Reference: 2022/05/20(Fri) 15:30:32

3855. >Anonymous-san   User: Kuznetsov   Post date: 2022/05/20(Fri) 21:42:12             
> > I wouldnt call ddosing heyuris servers (remember all that downtime in november
> > through january?) and trying to make fake emails incriminating me as a cp producer
> > "mild distaste" or a "1 sided war". But then again, you have a habit of speaking 
> > authoritively on shit you have no idea about  ヽ(´∇`)ノ
> 1. I don't believe any of that had anything to do with kissu (unless 
>    you can definitively prove otherwise, in which case I'll be happy to 
>    be proven wrong and I'll never stick up for kissu again)
> 2. The downtime and performance issues at that time were previously 
>    reported by you as being an issue with your ISP regarding the size 
>    of our traffic, gateway routers crashing due to your network 
>    receiving a lot of traffic, and "getting ddos'd occasionally":
>    https://www.heyuri.net/#news43
>    https://ayashii.net/bbs.php?m=t&s=2384&c=48&ff=202201.dat
> 3. You announced that we were under DDoS attack on 2021/11/19 
>    ( https://ayashii.net/bbs.php?m=t&s=2091&ff=202111.dat ), but your 
>    hitpiece on kissu hosted on nss.kolyma.org was already online in 
>    October - it contained serious CP-related accusations that you 
>    provided no evidence for, and it even detailed insults that you had 
>    directed towards them prior to all of this:
>    https://web.archive.org/web/20211028084952/https://nss.kolyma.org/dangerous-websites/kissu/
> Regardless, even if it was true that kissu was somehow behind the DDoS 
> against your network, none of that had nothing to do with Heyuri - it 
> was entirely to do with you, kolyma, and your "interactions" with other 
> websites - and Heyuri had to suffer for it (;´Д`)

1. It had lots to do with kissu, as both the owner and 2 of its moderators
were diretly involved in the whole situation..

2. At the time I had wrote these newsposts I had only been suffering these
attacks for 3 days and I thought it was just a small incident with a little
peak in traffic, I was woefully incorrect and considered taking down those
newsposts multiple times but decided not to for posterity. Later on it 
became obvious what the real cause was, and exactly who was behind it
(based on when it happened throughout the day, where it came from, and
people from a kissu/sageru irc room predicting it minutes before it happened)

3. And? That page is just that, a page, there had been many arguments
and disagreements before and after it, and i never implied it was some sort
of catalyst for any one event or another.

I dont get how that changes anything, whether heyuri is down because
someone wanted to hurt me or the website, its still down regardless. It
seems stupid to make excuses for that behavior

Reference: 2022/05/20(Fri) 16:27:36

3861. >Kuznetsov-san   User: Anonymous   Post date: 2022/05/21(Sat) 00:05:11          
> > 1. I don't believe any of that had anything to do with kissu (unless 
> >    you can definitively prove otherwise, in which case I'll be happy to 
> >    be proven wrong and I'll never stick up for kissu again)
> > 2. The downtime and performance issues at that time were previously 
> >    reported by you as being an issue with your ISP regarding the size 
> >    of our traffic, gateway routers crashing due to your network 
> >    receiving a lot of traffic, and "getting ddos'd occasionally":
> >    https://www.heyuri.net/#news43
> >    https://ayashii.net/bbs.php?m=t&s=2384&c=48&ff=202201.dat
> > 3. You announced that we were under DDoS attack on 2021/11/19 
> >    ( https://ayashii.net/bbs.php?m=t&s=2091&ff=202111.dat ), but your 
> >    hitpiece on kissu hosted on nss.kolyma.org was already online in 
> >    October - it contained serious CP-related accusations that you 
> >    provided no evidence for, and it even detailed insults that you had 
> >    directed towards them prior to all of this:
> >    https://web.archive.org/web/20211028084952/https://nss.kolyma.org/dangerous-websites/kissu/
> > Regardless, even if it was true that kissu was somehow behind the DDoS 
> > against your network, none of that had nothing to do with Heyuri - it 
> > was entirely to do with you, kolyma, and your "interactions" with other 
> > websites - and Heyuri had to suffer for it (;´Д`)
> 1. It had lots to do with kissu, as both the owner and 2 of its moderators
> were diretly involved in the whole situation..
> 2. At the time I had wrote these newsposts I had only been suffering these
> attacks for 3 days and I thought it was just a small incident with a little
> peak in traffic, I was woefully incorrect and considered taking down those
> newsposts multiple times but decided not to for posterity. Later on it 
> became obvious what the real cause was, and exactly who was behind it
> (based on when it happened throughout the day, where it came from, and
> people from a kissu/sageru irc room predicting it minutes before it happened)
> 3. And? That page is just that, a page, there had been many arguments
> and disagreements before and after it, and i never implied it was some sort
> of catalyst for any one event or another.
> I dont get how that changes anything, whether heyuri is down because
> someone wanted to hurt me or the website, its still down regardless. It
> seems stupid to make excuses for that behavior

I don't excuse that behavior - I just have no way of knowing who was 
behind it, so I'm not pointing any fingers. I know what parts you were 
behind though, because you've generally used your name and tripcode 
while doing it - petty tribalism, annoying self-promotion (even after 
being asked to stop), and making many individuals and communities avoid 
Heyuri purely because of your/kolyma's involvement with it (;´Д`)

And there were plenty of other instances just like this involving you 
taking part in dumb internet slapfights with other sites/admins too - 
particularly during 2021, but even going back to "teh golden age" (I 
saw ur original Twitter account, shit sucked!) (;´Д`)

Ultimately this should all be water under the bridge ever since you 
stepped down as Heyuri admin, and we can finally go back to being a 
peaceful friendly website - but if you (and whoever else involved with 
kolyma) keep acting like Heyuri is some despised and attacked website, 
when in reality it was only you/kolyma that was despised and attacked 
(at most, and usually with you instigating it in the first place), then 
we (as in Heyuri) are never going to be able to move past it (;´Д`)

Instead we'll just continue having these st00pid freaking episodes 
every time sum n00b comes in and innocently mentions a kewl site 
they've found that happens to be on your hueg "do NOT send a Christmas 
card to this year" list (;´Д`)

Reference: 2022/05/20(Fri) 16:42:12

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