2266.    User: Kuznetsov   Post date: 2021/12/17(Fri) 18:10:50             
How am I supposed to make friends with other sites like kaguya said when
all the other sites are shit (;´Д`)

2267. >Kuznetsov-san   User: Anonymous   Post date: 2021/12/17(Fri) 18:28:46          
> How am I supposed to make friends with other sites like kaguya said when
> all the other sites are shit (;´Д`)

Maybe teh crux of teh p0rblem is that u believe all teh other sites r 
shit... (´~`)

Anyways, u could always get sum1 else 2 play ambassador ヽ(´ー`)ノ

Reference: 2021/12/17(Fri) 13:10:50

2270. >Anonymous-san   User: Kuznetsov   Post date: 2021/12/18(Sat) 16:19:19             
> > How am I supposed to make friends with other sites like kaguya said when
> > all the other sites are shit (;´Д`)
> Maybe teh crux of teh p0rblem is that u believe all teh other sites r 
> shit... (´~`)
> Anyways, u could always get sum1 else 2 play ambassador ヽ(´ー`)ノ

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places but all of heyuris "peers" (other
imageboards of similar size and makeup) are absolute shit. The only redeeming
qualities are that which they copied from Heyuri! Seriously. Heyuri users are
such trendsetters.. the notifications thing, that was ours first! Some of our rules.., 
hell, even some of our threads, just copied. Heyuri is too good and the
rest are too shit, they just follow our lead for the most part. Oh yeah, and our
"heyuri neocities" project too, as soon as we did that, like 15 other sites did
too.

(;´Д`) Maybe.. Maybe I am too cynical for this. Maybe someone else would
take pride in seeing this but for me it just seems like blatant unoriginality
and that annoys me a bit.

Reference: 2021/12/17(Fri) 13:28:46

2271. >Kuznetsov-san   User: Anonymous   Post date: 2021/12/18(Sat) 19:02:11          
> > Maybe teh crux of teh p0rblem is that u believe all teh other sites r 
> > shit... (´~`)
> > Anyways, u could always get sum1 else 2 play ambassador ヽ(´ー`)ノ
> Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places but all of heyuris "peers" (other
> imageboards of similar size and makeup) are absolute shit. The only redeeming
> qualities are that which they copied from Heyuri! Seriously. Heyuri users are
> such trendsetters.. the notifications thing, that was ours first! Some of our rules.., 
> hell, even some of our threads, just copied. Heyuri is too good and the
> rest are too shit, they just follow our lead for the most part. Oh yeah, and our
> "heyuri neocities" project too, as soon as we did that, like 15 other sites did
> too.
> (;´Д`) Maybe.. Maybe I am too cynical for this. Maybe someone else would
> take pride in seeing this but for me it just seems like blatant unoriginality
> and that annoys me a bit.

I think "cynical" would be an understatement... (;^Д^)

Anyway, we're hardly the first site to do the things we're doing, and I 
don't really care what other sites do as long as it's not malicious 
garbage that destroys the internet

What I ultimately want is a healthy and diverse internet with lots of 
people doing lots of cool things, and I'd rather there be moar sites 
inspired by ours than not! ヽ(´ー`)ノ

Also limiting our scope to just "other imageboards of similar size and 
makeup" seems shortsighted - there are plenty of great websites out 
there doing k00l things besides what we're doing ヽ(´ー`)ノ

I liek these sentiments found in this "manifesto":
https://sadgrl.online/newoldweb/manifesto.html
>We, the people of the internet, have the power to transform the internet.
>The goal is not to go backwards, but to forge a new path forward.
>- Socialize with & collaborate with other webmasters & artists.
>Most of all, never stop creating & making connections on the internet. We will never give up!

Reference: 2021/12/18(Sat) 11:19:19

2274. >Anonymous-san   User: kaguya   Post date: 2021/12/19(Sun) 11:09:30             
> > Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places but all of heyuris "peers" (other
> > imageboards of similar size and makeup) are absolute shit. The only redeeming
> > qualities are that which they copied from Heyuri! Seriously. Heyuri users are
> > such trendsetters.. the notifications thing, that was ours first! Some of our rules.., 
> > hell, even some of our threads, just copied. Heyuri is too good and the
> > rest are too shit, they just follow our lead for the most part. Oh yeah, and our
> > "heyuri neocities" project too, as soon as we did that, like 15 other sites did
> > too.
> > (;´Д`) Maybe.. Maybe I am too cynical for this. Maybe someone else would
> > take pride in seeing this but for me it just seems like blatant unoriginality
> > and that annoys me a bit.
> I think "cynical" would be an understatement... (;^Д^)
> Anyway, we're hardly the first site to do the things we're doing, and I 
> don't really care what other sites do as long as it's not malicious 
> garbage that destroys the internet
> What I ultimately want is a healthy and diverse internet with lots of 
> people doing lots of cool things, and I'd rather there be moar sites 
> inspired by ours than not! ヽ(´ー`)ノ
> Also limiting our scope to just "other imageboards of similar size and 
> makeup" seems shortsighted - there are plenty of great websites out 
> there doing k00l things besides what we're doing ヽ(´ー`)ノ
> I liek these sentiments found in this "manifesto":
> https://sadgrl.online/newoldweb/manifesto.html
> >We, the people of the internet, have the power to transform the internet.
> >The goal is not to go backwards, but to forge a new path forward.
> >- Socialize with & collaborate with other webmasters & artists.
> >Most of all, never stop creating & making connections on the internet. We will never give up!

I also don't mind "unoriginality" on the interwebs. I sometimes find some old
discussions on abandoned places and decide they could fit Heyuri, or see a
cool concept on other sites (not necessarily imageboards) and think it
could be fun if Heyuri adapted them. Since it's creation by loliko, Heyuri
got inspirations from several other sites, and this is a good thing (´ー`)

However, one thing kuz seemed to miss mentioning is how some site are
antagonizing Heyuri. I am not going to claim we made no mistakes as staff,
but as much as pro-peace I can get, our good intentions sometimes get abused
by staff of other sites. It's not simply a case of "A site owner gets inspired from
Heyuri, makes his site so it resembles to Heyuri". They are trying to surpass
us following ill ways. It's not like I wouldn't appreciate if they were doing what
we are doing but in a better way than ours, but this is simply not the case (;´Д`)

Else than that, I am all for making friends for Heyuri. What I just talked about
is of course not the case for all sites, and I also agree we shouldn't look only 
for imageboards or for communities with similar size. RIP Diaperbooru, a former
ally for Heyuri, which was a booru dedicated to diapers ;_;7

I recently made peace with at least one individual "enemy" of Heyuri, he
was cool with helping us at technical stuff of townhalls since he happens to be
in the development team of gikopoi ヽ(´∇`)ノ
I guess there are some other cool people I have good relations in individual basis
but what we are looking for isn't individual people, but different types
of communities about anything. This is something that's easier said than
done, but I believe Heyuri is capable for it

I also checked out the site you sent. Not sure if here is the best place to mention
this, but it shares some same views with KolymaNET. Especially with hosting,
Kolyma hosts sites for FREE!!1(except you want your own domains, but
in this case we are simply not paying for others' domains. free TLDs liek .cf/.ga also exists)
Actually you know what, I will attempt reaching  the webmaster to tell him about
Kolyma's web hosting, perhaps I will be able to make a connection with them for
all of us' behalf ヽ(´∇`)ノ

Reference: 2021/12/18(Sat) 14:02:11

2275. >kaguya-san   User: Anonymous   Post date: 2021/12/19(Sun) 16:12:33          
> > I think "cynical" would be an understatement... (;^Д^)
> > Anyway, we're hardly the first site to do the things we're doing, and I 
> > don't really care what other sites do as long as it's not malicious 
> > garbage that destroys the internet
> > What I ultimately want is a healthy and diverse internet with lots of 
> > people doing lots of cool things, and I'd rather there be moar sites 
> > inspired by ours than not! ヽ(´ー`)ノ
> > Also limiting our scope to just "other imageboards of similar size and 
> > makeup" seems shortsighted - there are plenty of great websites out 
> > there doing k00l things besides what we're doing ヽ(´ー`)ノ
> > I liek these sentiments found in this "manifesto":
> > https://sadgrl.online/newoldweb/manifesto.html
> I also don't mind "unoriginality" on the interwebs. I sometimes find some old
> discussions on abandoned places and decide they could fit Heyuri, or see a
> cool concept on other sites (not necessarily imageboards) and think it
> could be fun if Heyuri adapted them. Since it's creation by loliko, Heyuri
> got inspirations from several other sites, and this is a good thing (´ー`)
> However, one thing kuz seemed to miss mentioning is how some site are
> antagonizing Heyuri. I am not going to claim we made no mistakes as staff,
> but as much as pro-peace I can get, our good intentions sometimes get abused
> by staff of other sites. It's not simply a case of "A site owner gets inspired from
> Heyuri, makes his site so it resembles to Heyuri". They are trying to surpass
> us following ill ways. It's not like I wouldn't appreciate if they were doing what
> we are doing but in a better way than ours, but this is simply not the case (;´Д`)
> Else than that, I am all for making friends for Heyuri. What I just talked about
> is of course not the case for all sites, and I also agree we shouldn't look only 
> for imageboards or for communities with similar size. RIP Diaperbooru, a former
> ally for Heyuri, which was a booru dedicated to diapers ;_;7
> I recently made peace with at least one individual "enemy" of Heyuri, he
> was cool with helping us at technical stuff of townhalls since he happens to be
> in the development team of gikopoi ヽ(´∇`)ノ
> I guess there are some other cool people I have good relations in individual basis
> but what we are looking for isn't individual people, but different types
> of communities about anything. This is something that's easier said than
> done, but I believe Heyuri is capable for it
> I also checked out the site you sent. Not sure if here is the best place to mention
> this, but it shares some same views with KolymaNET. Especially with hosting,
> Kolyma hosts sites for FREE!!1(except you want your own domains, but
> in this case we are simply not paying for others' domains. free TLDs liek .cf/.ga also exists)
> Actually you know what, I will attempt reaching  the webmaster to tell him about
> Kolyma's web hosting, perhaps I will be able to make a connection with them for
> all of us' behalf ヽ(´∇`)ノ

Well if we do have sites/site owners antagonizing us ("us" as in Heyuri, 
not as in Kolyma/KolymaNET - we're supposed to be de-Kolyma-ized, and I 
never associated myself with that project to begin with!) in an attempt 
to push their own alleged Heyuri ripoffs, they're not doing a very good 
job cuz I have no idea who they are and I have seen no signs of their 
existence ヽ(´ー`)ノ

Unless of course you mean our one true archnemesis... IRUYEH (;゚Д゚)(゚Д゚;)

Reference: 2021/12/19(Sun) 06:09:30

2276. >Anonymous-san   User: kaguya   Post date: 2021/12/19(Sun) 19:23:57             
> > I also don't mind "unoriginality" on the interwebs. I sometimes find some old
> > discussions on abandoned places and decide they could fit Heyuri, or see a
> > cool concept on other sites (not necessarily imageboards) and think it
> > could be fun if Heyuri adapted them. Since it's creation by loliko, Heyuri
> > got inspirations from several other sites, and this is a good thing (´ー`)
> > However, one thing kuz seemed to miss mentioning is how some site are
> > antagonizing Heyuri. I am not going to claim we made no mistakes as staff,
> > but as much as pro-peace I can get, our good intentions sometimes get abused
> > by staff of other sites. It's not simply a case of "A site owner gets inspired from
> > Heyuri, makes his site so it resembles to Heyuri". They are trying to surpass
> > us following ill ways. It's not like I wouldn't appreciate if they were doing what
> > we are doing but in a better way than ours, but this is simply not the case (;´Д`)
> > Else than that, I am all for making friends for Heyuri. What I just talked about
> > is of course not the case for all sites, and I also agree we shouldn't look only 
> > for imageboards or for communities with similar size. RIP Diaperbooru, a former
> > ally for Heyuri, which was a booru dedicated to diapers ;_;7
> > I recently made peace with at least one individual "enemy" of Heyuri, he
> > was cool with helping us at technical stuff of townhalls since he happens to be
> > in the development team of gikopoi ヽ(´∇`)ノ
> > I guess there are some other cool people I have good relations in individual basis
> > but what we are looking for isn't individual people, but different types
> > of communities about anything. This is something that's easier said than
> > done, but I believe Heyuri is capable for it
> > I also checked out the site you sent. Not sure if here is the best place to mention
> > this, but it shares some same views with KolymaNET. Especially with hosting,
> > Kolyma hosts sites for FREE!!1(except you want your own domains, but
> > in this case we are simply not paying for others' domains. free TLDs liek .cf/.ga also exists)
> > Actually you know what, I will attempt reaching  the webmaster to tell him about
> > Kolyma's web hosting, perhaps I will be able to make a connection with them for
> > all of us' behalf ヽ(´∇`)ノ
> Well if we do have sites/site owners antagonizing us ("us" as in Heyuri, 
> not as in Kolyma/KolymaNET - we're supposed to be de-Kolyma-ized, and I 
> never associated myself with that project to begin with!) in an attempt 
> to push their own alleged Heyuri ripoffs, they're not doing a very good 
> job cuz I have no idea who they are and I have seen no signs of their 
> existence ヽ(´ー`)ノ
> Unless of course you mean our one true archnemesis... IRUYEH (;゚Д゚)(゚Д゚;)

"us" refers to Heyuri as I wrote in my first message, but in their eyes there is
no difference between KolymaNET and Heyuri. Whenever one of them gets
brought up, the other one follows it. I won't drop their names since discussing
this further won't help anything. These are a just a few sites, and internet is 
wide enough to ignore them (´ー`) 
What we should be discussing now is either which communities we can link
with, or how to get moar people to discuss this with us

Reference: 2021/12/19(Sun) 11:12:33

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